Christianity has a Flood Problem: Part 1

From Ararat to Islands: The Flood Story Science Can’t Support

Series Introduction

This document contains excerpt content from a book I have been writing, and is dedicated to those still earnestly seeking answers, recognizing a problem exists and yearning to confirm God's reality, even if cultural understandings fall short.

A portion of Christianity is entering a period where it must be broken down or proverbially pruned so that it can grow additional fruit. More knowledge is available than ever before, and those who have taken apparent moral high ground over science have began to loose a logical foothold. 

This is not to say that their faith is incorrect. As I know it, God is real, through my own experiences. However, there appears to be a fault in how our faith exists, and the current understanding that has led to many on a path promoted by peers rather than a willingness to re-organize their understanding based on what is observable. 

Some Christians have embraced a more grounded interpretation of the origin story in Genesis after much debate, and others have resisted remaining firmly rooted in traditional interpretations. Their resistance often arises from genuine faithfulness rather than ignorance. Yet, this form of Christianity is reaching a crisis point –many churches are shrinking, and it’s because their light is not as bright as it used to seem.

The point of contention can be diverse, though one of the leading reasons is feeling disconnected with the young Earth creation (YEC) movement and the literalist interpretations of Genesis that support it. As a Christian, I always supported the YEC interpretation, but new evidence it outpacing the ability of what the YEC movement was trying to do. 

For many of us, for our faith to remain in God, we are going to need a more plausible explanation, one that can remain in God and find the symbolic truths of our origin story, similarly to how Revelations wild symbolism explains many layers of events that would come to pass after it had been written. 

For this to happen, more and more people will need to recognize the void that has not been filled. The time is ripe for it, as knowledge has become more accessible than ever before, and people are finding more and more new ways to be able to see beyond the horizon into our earths forgotten history. 

First the time of tearing down will accelerate, and many of us will have to reconsider the methods used by God that resulted in mankind here on this the planet. Then some portion that continues in faith will no doubt continue rebuilding a way to hold onto where we are going. We can do that faithfully by recognizing that scripture is most certainly rooted in symbolic truth.

There is an appointed time for everything. And there is a time for every event under heaven–
…A time to plant and a time to uproot what is planted.
…A time to tear down and a time to build up…
…A time to throw stones and a time to gather stones;
A time to embrace and a time to shun embracing.
A time to search and a time to give up as lost;
A time to keep and a time to throw away.
A time to tear apart and a time to sew together;
A time to be silent and a time to speak.

Ecclesiastes 3:1-7, NASB

At the root of the problem for many young people has been the relevance of the hope these churches have been trying to relay, as new discovery upon new discovery remains in harmony with deep time –or at minimum, time deeper than the biblical account –. These churches and their universities have spent a great amount of effort in trying to discredit the pattern science has been uncovering. I respect their faith in trying to keep in step with their faith, but they have also needed to resort to avoiding many subjects to guard their opinions.

The greatest of these that I have become independently aware of during my own research would be the problem the Wallace Line and the distribution of unique geologically locked fauna (endemic species [2]) presents for a literalist interpretation of Noah’s flood. Other than from Dr Kurt Wise [37], I have not been able to find any Christian universities have tried to discuss this pattern in the living record. Their silence is commendable, a sign that they have some wisdom, as we are encouraged by the scriptures not to say anything if we don’t have something meaningful to contribute. 

Dr Wise [who is kind enough to show us many of the unanswered challenges to his argument] argues for a floating platform theory, where animals crossed oceans by rafting of post flood floating tree platforms, though [amongst other issues] this does not explain the presence or buildup of modern or ancestorial fossils from species to those modern ones who are living in those locations today. 

YEC believers in a literal interpretation of the biblical narrative covering our origins, commonly called young-earth-creationists (Creationists), have begun to try to keep the debate about the fossil record, for many methods have been found to discredit the scholarly work of secular scientists. Yet, only individuals tend to try to address subjects outside of what the supporting denominations are willing to discuss publicly. 

The big picture is quite low resolution when only addressing the fossil record, and as such it is easy to hide behind it. There are however other ways to see what has been happening in this world, and it has to do with the living record, things that are alive now, or still growing now. It has to do with things that were living up until a short time before now, such big animals on islands that were wiped out when the first humans arrived. 

The time has come that I speak up, for this subject burns within me constantly these days, and I may have something meaningful to contribute. 

God is real, I have been witness to miracles so grand that most wouldn’t believe it, and I have heard the same regarding similar miracles that defy simple coincidence from others that I know personally. It is this faith that will drive this discussion, but we still have to face the truth.

My goal here is to show that Creationists have no right to judge those who cant have faith in their literalist interpretation, though they have every right to believe what they will. However, their urge to accuse others based on it will remain unfounded. Jesus reminds us of the danger in calling others a fool, so please stay with me, and we’ll try to have node of that.

I’m going to start Part 1 by outlining the discovery process that has brought me up to this point. In Part 2 we’ll discuss the debate from a purely biblical standpoint, including what the bible does and doesn’t say –which was the thing I have found to be the most surprising when re-approaching it with new eyes, and a keenness for biblical symbology rather than what was passed on to me through teachings of the churches I have attended.

The 33+ Year Long Question

A burning question for me as far back as an adolescent was some of the pseudo scientific claims I had been guided to believe —especially around the idea of a global flood— and how we might reconcile the biblical texts with what we observe in the natural world. I had grown up Seventh Day Adventist (SDA), and as such, we subscribed to a strictly literal interpretation of Noah’s flood from Genesis chapters 6-8.

Particular extra biblical writings I was encouraged to believe in between the ages of 12-14 claimed that all coal deposits were a result of the global flood, and that some of them had caught fire, resulting in both ongoing earthquakes and volcanic activity. When I had been encouraged to believe that coal fires were the source of activity caused by what I already understood to be tectonic plate activity, I already knew what it meant. This was people making things up, even if they were passed as God inspired.

I had always had a knack for science well above my age group, even ranking near a sophomore in university for my high school national equivalency test scores in the USA by age sixteen (16). This coal fire thing had created a point of contention with me on who God really is. Meanwhile, as I’m sure I’ll mention again in this document, I had already been witness to one very inexplicable miracle with others at this point in my life, and was a whole hearted believer – just not of what I knew to be nonsensical. My heart never really gave up on contemplating Noah’s flood after that.

Sometime around 2016 I began to find compelling flood theories [1] from Christian educational institutions such as Genesis Apologetics. In particular, postulating that the flood account covered a year-long catastrophe during a rapid separation of the contents, tectonic plate subduction, and a sequence of content covering tidal waves that eliminated all land animal and bird life except for what was on the ark. That was a teaching I could accept at the time, since the planet is not covered by a globally distributed sediment layer from a more traditional assumption that somehow the waters statically rose above the mountains.

I came to realize some years later that the distribution of living endemic species on islands across the planet is a pattern that is at odds with any literalist interpretation of a migration of all air breathing land animals from a single point near Mt Ararat in modern day Turkey. A personal discovery that kept me keen on finding more answers.

In 2025, my approach to understanding Earth’s history underwent a transformative shift as I began to explore fresh perspectives on these age-old questions. I didn’t read about these issues somewhere, but realized them after sincere prayer for new ways of thinking in this area. After that, in the same way I do as an architect when solving novel problems that can not be handled with traditional methods, I was inventing new ways to address the flood debate without relying primarily on the fossil record.

Soon these new ways of viewing the debate between scientific evidence and literal biblical interpretations had profoundly reshaped my understanding, introducing arguments and ideas that were entirely new to me.
Since those early days of preparation I have discovered that some scientists have previously proposed similar concepts, and I was relieved to know I was not alone.

I Wanted To Know More

In early 2025, during several international flights, I gazed out of the airplane window at unfamiliar landscapes, mostly vast expanses of exposed geology along the desert of South America’s west coast. The stunning views filled me with awe and prompted deep reflection. During these journeys, I prayed earnestly for God to reveal His secrets to me —to grant me a profound understanding of His purpose, the world, and its connections to the Bible.

I recall vividly arriving in Santiago, Chile, in March 2015, deeply inspired by the breathtaking landscapes I had witnessed. I felt a lingering yearning to explore and understand the deeper things of God, determined to gain new insights and perspectives.

There appears to be a stalemate between young Earth creationists (Creationists) who maintain that the Earth’s age is approximately 6,000 to 6,500 years based on Biblical texts, and proponents of deep time who use a strictly scientifically observable approach. *It is worth mentioning that there are other categories, such as those who believe that the mechanisms for creation appear like evolution, but this is beyond the scope of this document. 

Creationists address the big ticket item debates by discrediting the scientific methods used, and the assumptions made in estimating ages. For example: when I was a child, I remember pastors boasting that radiocarbon dating [3] was the only chemical dating method that was accurate (because they needed it for biblical evidence I assume), and that dating rocks and fossils was based on faulty science. But these days, more and more carbon dated artifacts created by humans have been found that surpassed the Genesis timeline, so now many Creationists also now try to discredit radiocarbon dating.

For many years I accepted the apparent discrepancies as a point of my faith, but then in 2023 when I discovered that possibly we had been lied to by our church, I really needed to reorganize my faith. 

Newly motivated by this realization that we can’t just believe someone who says something or someone is holy or sent directly from God, and still curious about the apparent impasse in theories about the fossil record, I embarked on a journey to identify new patterns in the living record that could provide tangible evidence supporting the biblical account of the flood.

So, there I was in that airplane, looking out the window at those bare mountains in awe, and I had the deepest prayer that God would show me some of his past secrets. Things people hadn’t been ready for previously. During the following month in Santiago, it was steadily on my heart to want to know new things about the book of Genesis

The Island Contradiction

One of the biggest burdens on my heart since 2024 had been the distribution of species across islands. I even wrote one Creationist organization to try to pick their brain on this. Distributions like the marsupials and other distinctly unique endemic species east of Wallace Line [4] are scarcely addressed by Creationists. 

When it is addressed by Creationists, such as the Creation Museum and Answers in Genesis [5], they use smooth words, pitching the debate like it’s only a dozen marsupials [30] problem –or like there are no marsupial fossils– when there are many in the regions they are endemic to, as well as Antarctica. We’ll come back to this later. 

Let’s consider that koalas can only eat eucalyptus leaves, and how they are so dumb that they only recognize it on a tree, to the point that they’ll starve without at least being fooled into thinking the branch with eucalyptus leaves is extending from a tree trunk. They also need to sleep for about twenty (20) hours a day because the nutrients of the leaves is so low. Migration Viability: Only if eucalyptus sprouted every 20 meters or someone packed their lunches for the next 200 years.

Meanwhile, Christian universities — many of which regularly publish scholarly papers by PhD-bearing authors — are strangely quiet on the topic of the Wallace Line. When they do say something, it’s usually just the classic duet: kangaroos and koalas

And look, there’s a reason for the radio silence. It’s not that no one’s thought about it — it’s that there’s just no straight-faced, predator-free, divine GPS-guided explanation for how over 70 unique marsupial species managed to hop, crawl, and nap their way across 12,000 kilometers of forests, deserts, jungles, mountain ranges, and, oh yeah — oceans. Not without leaving a single cousin behind in Asia, Africa, Europe, or even North America. No roadkill, no fossils, no stragglers who missed the final ferry to Australia. It’s as if they all agreed to ghost the rest of the planet and throw a marsupial-only house party Down Under.

Among the many puzzles in global biodiversity, the Wallace Line stands out like a flashing neon sign that says: Species here. Not there. It’s a bold boundary where evolution — or something — has drawn a firm line between the marsupial menagerie of Australia and the placental crowd to the west. To understand why that matters, we’ve got to take a closer look at the Wallace Line, the quirky region of Wallacea, and the oddball biogeography of everything east of it.

When sea levels were low, places such as west of the Makassar Strait [6] in Indonesia were completely exposed, and Asian mammals populated the islands. But the depths of straight and surrounding seas were actually too deep for them to have crossed further east on foot.

Meanwhile, to the east in what has come to be known as Wallacea [7] are very distinct animals that have little in common with those in the west. They have no common ancestors or fossils of direct ancestors in Asia, Africa, Europe, and North America . To the east throughout Indonesia, New Guinea, and Australia, the further east we go, the more profound the changes get.

If the animals in Wallacea and east of there had ever co-mingled with those from Asia, then they would still be together, because they would migrate together, and they would have lineages together –at least in regards to predators. Marsupials in Australia cover all three spectrums of herbivore, omnivore, and carnivore –as they have not been exposed to other types of mammals that would have filled those spaces. 

There are 70-80 unique species of marsupials living to the east of the Wallace Line through to Australia, with more like 200 when counting sub-species of the marsupialiforme clade. These have more in common with living species in South America and fossils in Antarctica than they do with any native animals or fossils on other continents. I will say it again: There are no living or fossil close ancestral marsupials in Asia, Africa, Europe, or native to North America. None, which is the problem for any model showing a migration from modern day Turkey. 

One might ask how this distribution is across South America, Antarctica, and Australia. Modern marsupials migrated throughout South America, Antarctica, and Australia while they were connected as part of the supercontinent Gondwana.This is why the Monito del monte species (the little monkey of the mountain) in South America has more in common with Australian marsupials than its south American counterparts.

Monito del monte – Wikipedia https://share.google/ydsQfOkQBQpPNPAhk

There are very rare fossil exceptions [9] to the marsupialiforme clade globally, but they are not ancestors of modern marsupial species, and would be categorized by Creationists as having died during Noah’s global flood. 

This doesn’t just apply to the Wallace Line. When considering islands at a global scale, the distribution of plant or animal species found naturally only in a specific geographic location and nowhere else in the world [endemic species] can not be readily explained by the flood story. Some of them are too various, too unique, too big, too incapable of getting there by raft, swimming, or human transport. 

Several people have suggested to me that the unique distribution of land animals on islands across the globe is due to post flood human transport. But to the contrary, the pattern is the same for insects that have no human value, similarly to most of the land animals the proponents for that scenario overlook.

Take the blind cave wolf spider for example, which lives in ancient lava tubes of the Hawaiian island of Kawaii. They are endemic to an area only tens of square kilometres in size, and nowhere else on earth. 

Let’s also consider the Platypus and other odd strictly river dwelling species. These do not cross deserts, jungles, mountains, or continents in a matter of years, especially with only other oddball creatures like themselves. A platypus crawls on its belly. Could you imagine them possibly catching a ride in the pouch of kangaroos and wombats? That would be necessary. 

While Genesis Apologetics didn’t suggest it, there was a point when theories from their flood series [10] had me considering that perhaps the animals had survived in place as a global flood catastrophe played out in the form of tidal waves and rapid tectonic plate subduction on a global scale, but this also should leave a strong trail of evidence, and a perfect overlay with biblical texts. To my dismay, we fall short on that one from both from a biblical and physical world perspective.

All flesh that moved on the earth perished, birds and cattle and beasts and every swarming thing that swarms upon the earth, and all mankind; 22. of all that was on the dry land, all in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, died. 23. Thus He blotted out every living thing that was upon the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky, and they were blotted out from the earth; and only Noah was left, together with those that were with him in the ark.

Genesis 7:21-23, NASB

If we accept the notion that maybe a bunch of life survived a mega sequence of tidal waves in place, then the biblical account is still incorrect. Don’t get me wrong, I do believe the flood account Is rooted in some true story, possibly the black sea deluge theory could explain it, or some other event. I also recognize there are many hyperboles in the Bible when it says all of something never really meant all of it. 

We must proceed, because without more evidence all we have done here is create another impasse. I am personally convinced there no longer needs to be one, so let’s continue.

The Wallace Line
These land animals wouldn't have co-mingled without leaving fossil or living record with them together

Then The Floodgates Opened

Considering all things, I wasn’t satisfied with the island bound endemic species contradiction to the biblical flood account, so I had spent free time for more than a year before arriving in Chile researching modern fossils rather than dinosaurs. My aim was to be able to show additional evidence supporting a global flood catastrophe based on those modern theories [11] about a rapid separation of the earth’s crust in the Christian academic world that Genesis Apologetics had relied on. 

Interestingly, my path to completely new discoveries happened almost by chance while I was in Santiago. Google, aware of my renewed passion for investigating scholarly articles on fossils and geological strata, often fills my Android news feed with related articles. One day while we were relaxing, I noticed an intriguing article in my feed about nearly 2,000-year-old [at time of death] fossilized trees.

This discovery fascinated me! I had never considered fossilized trees in this context before. It seemed like an excellent starting point to investigate proof of biblical timelines, at least indirectly.

Most of the oldest living trees today are around 4,000 years old, with some exceptional specimens reaching up to +4,900 years. Some of these ancient trees, particularly resilient, appear to have possibly survived a global catastrophe. 

Initially, I reasoned that if I could find no fossilized trees that had reached more than maybe 2500 years of age before dying, this could have significant implications for proof of an earth around 6500 years old. My search did not yield any fossilized trees older than about 2,000 years at the age of death. 

From the Creationist perspective, this lack of older specimens supports a literal interpretation of biblical timelines in Genesis, indicating that the global flood occurred roughly over 4,000 years ago, and that the earth’s age before the flood was approximately 2,000 years.

Upon realizing this, I really dug into this from a biblical perspective. Could Genesis be saying more [or less] than I currently understood it did?

Genesis 2:5-6 suggests that while God did likely create a mature universe, he did not create a mature global-biome. I was quite happy remembering this seemingly unimportant detail. I’ve never really been concerned with the apparent age of the universe, since God would be capable of creating something mature, instantly established, yet seemingly bearing evidence of a past, much like a painting that appears to depict a moment in time. And then again, certainly there was no prophetic vision of Adam being formed from dust into a zygote when he was created, so God has the ability to create things fully developed. 

I’ll note here that there are actually two creation accounts with a different order to things, Genesis chapter 1 and 2. Also the word Adam was used for ”mankind”, so we don’t necessarily need to look at it like an account of one man and one woman. Jesus may have actually implied this was truly the case, as we will discuss in detail during another article in this series. 

Genesis 2:9 seems to suggest that God could speed up the process of growth at will, especially if it all happened in one day as a literal interpretation would recommend. This realization suggested that the apparent age of trees alone might not conclusively determine Earth’s age, though it was a fascinating concept.

I needed more evidence.

Corals Take The Witness Stand

During further reflection on the following Sabbath afternoon, another life form came to mind that could leave an unmistakable historical record: corals. Corals grow very slowly [15], and most species thrive only near the water’s surface. I had long found hope for my faith in the widely reported oldest age of living deep sea corals [16] to be just over 4000 years old, just like the oldest trees. But now I wanted to know about coral growth deposits, since this holds great significance. 

My perspective shifted dramatically within just a few hours as I uncovered reports of massive platforms of shallow-water corals submerged globally at depths reaching beyond 1.6 kilometers (one mile). Some drowned coral platforms extend in stepped terraces [18] covering sea mounts and continental shelves down to depths of around 1.6 kilometres, or 1 mile, while a few of the platforms containing fossil remains [17] are at depths of more than 2 kilometers [20]

Reading about this phenomenon sparked my interest, and I soon realized a deeper investigation was needed. I turned to scholarly articles, imagery, and videos, focusing on the methods used to date coral formations. While the sheer volume of material suggested great age, I sought a solid body of evidence. This research proved essential, as I’ll show, because the observable data from corals directly challenges the traditional biblical account of a global flood and a young Earth under 7,000 years old.

At first, my notion was this: It would make sense that if shallow-water species coral platforms did not consistently exist deep below the ocean’s surface, this absence could support the notion that Noah’s flood occurred around 4,000 years ago. We would expect to see thick shallow-water coral platforms primarily near the current ocean levels –the Great Barrier Reef for example–, perhaps with smaller bands at slightly lower depths, reflecting brief periods when sea levels might have been lower during a post-flood mini ice age. 

We might also see pre-flood deposits, but within reason since the Creationist biblical interpretation only gives room for around 2000 years of preflood growth. *Unlike tree rings, coral growths trapping other organisms within their strata signifies a pattern of death, which is evidence that anything growing with this pattern was not created without death. 

Due to slow mantle subduction [19], we would expect to see some platforms lower than one might expect, especially in places like the Caribbean, but that’s not always the whole story. Additionally, we would expect fossilized pre-flood corals at any level, including atop continents globally, which indeed exist. However, my immediate focus was not on these fossils, but rather on modern coral platforms, given that the flood scenario posits drastic changes in ocean levels occurring quite recently.

Shallow-water coral platforms tens or hundreds of meters thick take extensive periods to form and should not exist in areas where ocean levels and mantle elevation have not remained suitable for long duration. Although geological subsidence can contribute to coral depth changes, the Hawaiian Islands, for example, subside at a rate of only about 1 to 2 millimeters per year—significantly slower than coral growth rates.

IODP Expedition 389 (Hawaiian Drowned Coral Reefs)

What genuinely astonished me was the comprehensive international research conducted by the Integrated Ocean Drilling Program (IODP), particularly their extensive 2023 study (IODP 389 [22]) near Hawaii. This study, and similar ones [21] worldwide, provide compelling image and video documentation, core samples, and robust coral age assessments using well established techniques like Uranium–Thorium dating [23].

I’ve since studied Uranium-Thorium dating enough that I can currently explain it verbally, and the science is sound. Uranium is water soluble, but not thorium. Uranium decays into thorium, so – after accounting for thorium in atmospheric dust, the ratio of uranium to thorium in closed environmental aquatic structures can be calculated and compared to the half-life of uranium, showing its age. 

 

Shallow-water corals in Hawaii have created extensive platforms along the slopes of the Big Island [which was studied in IODP 389], reaching depths of approximately 1.5 kilometers (almost one mile). These structures represent hundreds of thousands of years of coral growth, something directly observable without specialized scientific equipment.

Drill samples clearly show the considerable thickness of these coral formations, and dating techniques unique to calcite forming in water consistently indicate that the earlier coral layers are progressively older, to the degree of more than 300,000 years in Hawaii. It’s important to emphasize that these are not fossilized corals but modern [however drowned], currently existing coral formations that extend all the way up the slopes to the current oceans surface.

Research from the IODP was just one part of a broader set of supporting evidence. Another notable example is the Enewetak Atoll in the Pacific Ocean, studied extensively by the U.S. government [24] before atomic bomb testing there. This atoll features a calcite cap covering a seamount, extending more than 1.4 kilometers thick. [25]

At the base of the atoll, the earliest corals have been compressed into rock-like formations, yet their original coral structures, as well as the shells of microorganisms, remain clearly visible within the calcite layers. The accumulation and compression of such extensive coral formations undeniably require hundreds of thousands of years, as each successive coral generation builds upon the previous ones. 

Enewetak Atoll isn’t alone in this phenomenon. Core samples from the Maldives similarly indicate calcite deposits reaching approximately 3 kilometers [26] ((nearly two miles) deep.

In Part 3, we’ll return to the coral debate, because some Christian scientists in adjacent fields of study have tried to address the coral dilemma, though more recent discoveries such as IODP 389 shed light on errors in those initial counter arguments, some of which predate IODP 389 by more than a decade. I was entirely unmoved by the scientists trying to discredit the coral evidence, but they did make a valiant stand. 

The Multi Pronged Evidence Approach

As days turned into weeks, my findings continued to expand.

Consider the case of New Zealand’s legendary Giant Moa [27], a remarkable flightless bird standing over 3 meters (10 feet) tall, which became extinct approximately 600 years ago—and around 200 years after the first humans first arrived on the islands. Remarkably, unfossilized skin and feathers of these birds have been discovered preserved in dry caves, and their bones have been found piled in middens near ancient human settlements, as uncovered by archaeologists.

New Zealand, isolated by vast oceans, has no native mammals aside from bats. This isolation means that only flying creatures could naturally settle there. Given this context, the Moa could not have arrived in New Zealand by walking or swimming from Noah’s Ark. The quantity of other unique species also testify to this playing out in situ. For example: The Haast’s Eagle [28] one of the earth’s biggest eagles to have existed on earth which fed almost exclusively on the giant Moa went extinct shortly after its prey did. No prey, no play.

Going back to that article from the Creation Museum and Answers in Genesis [5], where it’s proposed that marsupials returned to their exact pre-Flood homelands by walking — or perhaps rafting — across post-Flood debris fields to reach Wallacea and eventually Australia, we’re left to wonder: how, exactly, did the Moa make the trip? Because last time I checked, New Zealand isn’t exactly next door to Australia. 

Now, unless we’re prepared to believe the Haast’s eagle personally flew in a few breeding pairs of flightless Moa to New Zealand — perhaps to start a free-range farm — we’re left with a more grounded question: what about the other small flightless birds too tiny for the eagle to consider a snack, let alone the countless flightless species on islands across the globe? Many of those don’t even have a predator.

If this apex predator was capable of international livestock logistics, you’d think we’d see Round Two somewhere in the fossil record. More likely, there’s a simpler explanation — that both the eagle and its supersized snack were part of Gods creative process right there, uniquely shaped by New Zealand’s isolation, ecology, and total lack of large land predators.

Because while “avian airlift program for culinary purposes” is a fun image, biogeography tends to play it a bit straighter.

Comparison of a kiwi (Apteryx sp.ApterygidaeStruthioniformes), ostrich (Struthio camelusStruthionidaeStruthioniformes), and giant moa (Dinornis giganteusDinornithidaeDinornithiformes), each with its egg.

Madagascar also had a similar example, with the recently extinct endemic Elephant Bird. Even in the living record, Madagascar is the unique home of lemurs, a wet nose primate family of eight (8) unique species endemic only to the island of Madagascar 

Still, I needed more evidence.

I returned to considering mammals that live below the earths surface. These aren’t migratory animals. Here I found the blind and deaf marsupial mole [29] endemic to Australia’s deserts. I began to feel so foolish. How simple would this question have been to ask from the beginning? Well, either that or the marsupial mole might be the only creature to attempt burrowing its way through Asia!

This animal is so specialized that even its pouch faces backward — a brilliant adaptation to keep sand out while tunneling through desert soil. It’s fascinating to consider that God may have granted it this flexibility through a generative biological process. But still — why is a marsupial doing this in Australia? Simple: because no other mammals were present to exploit that nutrient-rich underground niche.

I have a very hard time accepting that this blind, deaf, highly specialized creature somehow made its way from Noah’s Ark to the red sands of Australia. I see the idea is, quite frankly, rubbish — and especially in light of the idea that all marsupial species migrated together to Australia. How would they have log hopped across a floating platform and kept up with the others? It makes me feel a bit of pity or almost sad inside that this is what humanity is left to struggle with. The answer should be easy to see. 

Now, some might claim this kind of evidence supports evolution exclusively — but perhaps we’ve misunderstood God’s methods. Nothing appears without his foresight, even when expressed through a generative process. What if biological emergence is the result not of randomness, but of divine intentionality embedded within dynamic systems? 

After all, is not mankind now building generative AI models that generate new things? These are tools that can create, adapt, and even surprise us — yet they’re ultimately shaped by our design, our input, our rules. These systems may behave almost autonomously at lower levels, but their creativity is never truly detached from their creators.

So why wouldn’t God employ a similar approach — setting the initial conditions, applying laws and boundaries, and training biological, behavioral, and even sentient systems of creation through an intelligence that far surpasses anything we can engineer?

Like Jesus said, when speaking of things beyond what many could grasp: “He who has ears, let him hear.”

Continuing in such reason, we also begin to see a reason for why God would have been meddling with mankind since even before they began to realize the difference between right and wrong. –it was an extension of his ongoing process– and a method to help us cultivate love within family and cultural settings.

This is to say, love and civil behavior -the fruits of the Spirit– being the end goal for the fruitful personalities this branching vine produces, and somehow we needed a savior for that once we were old enough as a species to understand our incapability to achieve it in the flesh on our own. 

Some won’t be able to accept this. Their view of Scripture has been too thoroughly rounded — tested, codified, and defended by evolving human reasoning for thousands of years — to the point that they see it as a perfect, end-to-end system that must be interpreted literally and flawlessly… according to their God inspired but human formed framework.

They need God to be who they thought He was.

So did I, honestly! But, somehow there was a such a profound perception in my being the first day i felt overwhelmed by it. “Don’t cry over spilled milk”. 

Creation itself has more credibility than men — even men inspired by the Spirit. The Bible says God spoke, and in a way —creation obeyed– otherwise it wouldn’t be here. The Bible also says that man is faulty, and that God inspired them. Beyond prophecies about the future specifically [31, 32, 33], that distinction matters.

Beyond this, we might not have had the interpretation of the flood or creation story exactly right. While it made logical sense to early humanity and inspired the conviction of sin and need for a savior, there are a lot of assumptions we have been making, including that Adam [which is the same word used for mankind in Hebrew] and Eve were somehow previously perfect –which the bible never says. 

I just hope it doesn’t become a matter of power or money for those who hold fast to outdated theology so tightly — even demonically — much like the teachers of Israel, who read the Scriptures a thousand times, and still failed to recognize what was right in front of them when Jesus exposed it.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying this particular message is the stumbling block for people. In fact, many should stay safe with what they are only capable of understanding if that helps them remain loving. Only Jesus truly holds that title, as if we fail on that one point of faith then there is no hope left to continue. I am however saying that if they choose to behave like the jews and put others through undue grief, they may be in danger of loosing themselves in what equates to being void of love. 

Conclusion

Proof that God has truly been working with mankind is in bible prophecy. Throughout history, faithful individuals have testified to divine help and miracles beyond coincidence, and evidenced to later generations through prophecies predicting the future rather than detailing the past explicitly. One of the primary reasons I could never let go of my faith in him (may God be willing) is the 70 Weeks Prophecy from Daniel chapter 9 that predicted the year of Jesus Christ’s death. This was recognized by early Christians as early as the early second century CE, and meanwhile the earliest extant physical copies of those texts are more than 190 years before the death of Christ.

While I may have evidence contrary to what many once found to be sound doctrine –this evidence is still going to be part of light shining in the darkness [34] for many of us. The physical witnesses that testify to what I’m saying are too diverse, and in further parts in this series we’re going to discuss how they are not necessarily at odds with the teachings of Christ specifically.

For example: A prophecy about Jesus from 700 years before his time also testifies of Christs behavior and intent when he would be on this earth.

A bent reed He will not break off And a dimly burning wick He will not extinguish; He will faithfully bring forth justice.

Isaiah 42:3

This here is speaking of how he would not say anything that would stop anyone from loosing their faith. As such, his duty was to bring justice, provide forgiveness, and fulfill prophecy by providing a way for us to proceed beyond this very reality should we be willing to accept what he has prepared.

He was sent to the lineage of Abraham first, as this is where the promise manifest anew — and as such he would not break their understanding, as it was not necessary. Christ did however say that those who are poor in spirit would inherit the kingdom of heaven, and we know from Job 32:8 that he meant that they lack understanding. 

He was also perceptibly careful when speaking about creation, or at least history beyond Abel, and again said scripture can not be undone, so there must be symbolic value in anything that was said. We’ll cover all this in higher detail during Part 2. 

There remains space for belief in God as the Creator, though we must not presume to fully understand His mechanisms. Across broader Christianity, one view holds that God created life without death; another observes a natural cycle inclusive of biological death. (These are only two examples)

Some find it inconceivable that God could allow death from creation, or that their God is your God if you don’t believe their literal version with them. Others believe death appears to be a tool of God nonetheless.

It is written that Satan holds the power of death [35], but so did the Angel of the Lord [36]

What is important is that we not throw-stones at one another, for when we throw them we are in danger of losing what we thought we would gain. If some can’t see all of Genesis literally, but accept that the story of our origins is symbolically significant, and they obey God, then who is another disciple to say they are lost?

Whether we are one side of the opinion or the other, what is imperative is to remember that right now isn’t a time to lose touch with our faith, nor is it a time to harass others about our position. Dialogue is necessary, but it must happen willfully, and we can recognize that if it was not important for Christians to understand this in the time of Christ, then equally so, now also. It is not our job to shake the tree branches, aka: Gods vine with this belief now either. The process needs to precipitate naturally. 

It is also not a sin to understand this knowledge to be the truth, or to not be able to accept it as the truth — not yet. In the next part I will focus heavily on the teachings of Christ and how he did tell us that we should never judge others for their knowledge, nor should we call them a fool without being in danger of being the person we thought they were. 

Let’s save the rest for the next article.

Want to know more? Please join me in part 2 where we will continue to address this issue with a deeper look at what clues we may have to overcome this challenge when using the scriptures.

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